Tuesday, November 26, 2024

The True Legacy of Iranic Scythians vs. Turkish DNA: A Genetic Perspective

By Bobby Darvish, Iranian-American Ex-Muslim, Former Vegan, Former Democrat, Former Socialist, Former CAIR-Columbus Executive Director, Former Muslim Forum of Utah President, Christian Conservative LDS


The story of human migration and identity lies in our DNA. For years, discussions around Iranic and Turkic peoples have been muddled by historical conquests, migrations, and identity politics. As an Iranian-American with Alan/Iranic Scytho-Sarmatian roots, I find it crucial to clarify the genetic truths that distinguish the ancient Scythians from the Turks. This effort not only honors the history of Iranian peoples but also challenges the misconceptions propagated by imperial narratives.


Iranic Scythians: A Genetic Mosaic

The Scythians were a nomadic group originating in the Eurasian steppes, extending from modern-day Ukraine to Iran. They are widely recognized as an Indo-Iranian people, deeply connected to the larger Iranian linguistic and cultural family. Their DNA reflects this heritage.

Key Haplogroups in Iranic Scythians:

  1. R1a: A dominant haplogroup among Scythians, linked to Indo-Iranian and Indo-European ancestry, found widely across the steppes and Iran.
  2. R1b: Another major haplogroup associated with steppe pastoralists, found among Scythians and related Iranian peoples.
  3. J2: Common in the ancient Near East, including Mesopotamia and Iran, reflecting the agricultural and urban development of these regions.
  4. J1: While often associated with Semitic populations, a subset of J1 is found among Scythians and Iranians, particularly in the Zagros region.
  5. G: Found in the Caucasus and parts of the Iranian plateau, reflecting ancient connections.
  6. Q1a: A haplogroup seen in Eurasian steppe populations, linking Scythians to their nomadic roots.
  7. I2: Found in smaller frequencies, possibly reflecting localized admixture with European populations during migrations.

The Turks: A Distinct Altaic Genetic Signature

The Turks, unlike the Scythians, originated in the Altai Mountains of Central Asia. Their initial genetic makeup was distinct from the Indo-European populations they later conquered. However, through centuries of migration and assimilation in Anatolia, the genetic identity of modern Turks has become heavily mixed with indigenous Anatolian, Greek, Armenian, and Kurdish populations.

Key Altaic Turkic Haplogroups:

  1. C2: A marker of ancient Altaic and Mongolic ancestry, predominant in Central Asia.
  2. N: Associated with Siberian and Uralic peoples, highlighting the Turkic-Mongolic connections.
  3. Q1a: Shared with steppe nomads, though its presence in Turks is smaller compared to Scythians.
  4. O3: A marker of East Asian ancestry, reflecting early Turkic-Mongolic origins.
  5. D: Traces of this haplogroup link to East Asia and the Himalayan region.

Admixed Haplogroups in Modern Turks:

  1. J2, J1, R1b, R1a: These haplogroups are not native to the original Altaic Turks but reflect centuries of assimilation with Greeks, Persians, and Armenians.
  2. E1b1b: A North African and Mediterranean haplogroup, found due to Ottoman-era expansions.
  3. G: Common in the Caucasus and Anatolia, adopted through Armenian and Georgian intermarriage.

Contrasting Scythians and Turks: Genetics Tell the Tale

The Iranic Scythians retain a strong connection to the Indo-Iranian and Indo-European genetic pool. In contrast, the Altaic Turks began as a distinct group with Siberian and Mongolic roots. The modern Turkish genome reflects a loss of Altaic purity due to heavy assimilation with the indigenous populations of Anatolia.

For example, haplogroups like C2 and N—quintessential markers of Altaic ancestry—are found in relatively low frequencies among modern Turks. Instead, haplogroups like J2, R1b, and G dominate, showcasing their genetic absorption of non-Turkic populations.


The Politics of Identity and DNA

Turkish nationalists often attempt to appropriate the legacies of conquered peoples, including Scythians, Persians, and Greeks. However, genetic science dismantles these claims. The Iranic Scythians, with their R1a and J haplogroups, are firmly rooted in Indo-Iranian history, while the Altaic Turks have a distinct, non-Indo-European origin.

Understanding these distinctions is essential for preserving the historical and genetic integrity of Iranian peoples and combating revisionist narratives. As an Iranian-American and former Muslim who has witnessed identity manipulation firsthand, I see this as part of a broader struggle for truth—both genetic and historical.


Conclusion

The Scythians, with their Indo-Iranian legacy, stand apart from the Turkic peoples who originated in the Altai. DNA confirms these distinctions, offering an undeniable record of who we are and where we come from. This genetic history serves as a testament to the resilience of Iranian identity in the face of centuries of conquest and assimilation.


Citations

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